Curse

Charr · Aug 14, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

I was just going over PvE skill we will have in GW:EN and I noticed that all of them except one is energy driven, and further more most of them have energy cost 10 or higher and cause exhaustion, now as we all know primary warriors have 20 basic energy and only 2 pips of energy regeneration so it will be very hard for them to use these skills effectively.

Bruce Leeroy · Aug 14, 2007, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by Charr

I was just going over PvE skill we will have in GW:EN and I noticed that all of them except one is energy driven, and further more most of them have energy cost 10 or higher and cause exhaustion

Where does it state that these skills cause exhaustion?

Jumping Is Uselss · Aug 15, 2007, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Where are these skills you are going over? Its probably for another class and not warriors.

Patrick Stealthwind · Aug 15, 2007, 12:44 AM // 00:44

theyre still changing a lot of details in EotN. they change the energy cost, the dmg, and the casting time of many skills. and who knows, maybe each skill will have 10 different forms, 1 for each profession.

GloryFox · Aug 15, 2007, 01:31 AM // 01:31

These skills are thought of as having Exhaustion. This does hamper a warriors or an Assassins ability to use these skills casters only I guess. Kind of silly for PvE only skills. Looks like the Exhaustion nerf bat hits again.

Of the skills known
Asura skills
Asuran Scan 5 E (Dang! and I was looking forward to using this with my SIN)
Mental Block 10 E

Dwarf Skills
Breath of the Great Dwarf 10 E
Great Dwarf Armor ? E
Great Dwarf Weapon ? E
Light of Deldrimor ? E

Ebon Vanguard
Ebon Battle Standard of Courage 10 E
Ebon Battle Standard of Honor ? E
Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom ? E

Charr · Aug 15, 2007, 02:19 AM // 02:19

And what's even worse except Mental Block and Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom, all of these skills are obviously ment to by used by "frontline characters" and yet when the use it get basically ass raped.

vaxmor · Aug 15, 2007, 02:45 AM // 02:45

welcome to a team game.

draxynnic · Aug 15, 2007, 02:50 AM // 02:50

You know, I actually find that warriors are one of the classes LEAST affected by exhaustion. The reasons?

First, the warrior has another source of powering skills, being adrenaline. For a warrior who relies primarily on adrenal skills, energy is mostly irrelevant.

Second, the warrior's energy recharge rate isn't that much faster than exhaustion recovers anyway - exhaustion recovers at a rate equivalent to one arrow of regen, so hitting the exhaustion barrier doesn't actually cost you that much. If you're willing to do without a shield and have an appropriate secondary, you may even be able to grab a 15/-1 offhand and ignore exhaustion entirely.

Assassins and Dervishes - now they do both get hard, as each has a fairly low energy pool balanced by having means to replenish it quickly and they don't have the option to take an offhand - either can be expected to hit the exhaustion barrier repeatedly if they pick some up.

Mordakai · Aug 15, 2007, 02:20 PM // 14:20

Oddly enough, when you go to the edit page, Exhaustion = n

Did the original data files these came from list Exhaustion?

If not, this is much ado about nothing. Probably user error in posting the descriptions of skills that don't technically even exist yet...

Rizwan · Aug 15, 2007, 02:29 PM // 14:29

warriors main power is not using energy for attacks but adrenaline
Use it wisely

dr_ishmael · Aug 15, 2007, 02:56 PM // 14:56

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Oddly enough, when you go to the edit page, Exhaustion = n

Did the original data files these came from list Exhaustion?

If not, this is much ado about nothing. Probably user error in posting the descriptions of skills that don't technically even exist yet...

I think Mordakai caught it here - it's supposed to be "exhaustion = no", the template doesn't recognize y/n, only yes/no. Besides, all current skills that cause exhaustion mention it in the skill description, so why don't these have it in their description? (Yes, I know the descriptions were taken from gw.dat, but I've looked myself and they don't mention exhaustion at all.)

Stop worrying people - it's user error on the wiki, these skills do not cause exhaustion unless the description says so.

[edit] Besides, the screenshot of Asura Scan doesn't mention exhaustion.